Hello, I have a 45/70 NEF handi rifle and a Lee loader for 45/70. My question is it list a load using 40.3 grs. IMR 4227 for bullet weights of 350 to 450 grs. ,will this rifle handle this load . I have IMR 4227, IMR 3031, and Varget. Would like to use 4227 , a faster burning powder. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. tfranklin7568 posts · Joined 2004. #11 · Nov 15, 2020. I used up a 1000 Winchester LP magnum primers in my 45-70, no issues and in reality you can use them for most 45-70 loads as they are normally used in rounds that make pressures to 40,000 PSI. Not many of us load the 45-70 that hot. Save Share.May 28, 2021 · Mar 6, 2017. 3,515. 3,019. Before this primer crunch hit, 5744 was high on the list to do some testing in reduced loads. At some point I'll get around to it. I remember reading somewhere that it's an excellent powder for 45-70 in normal loads. Be interesting to see how it does for you Guy. Jun 7, 2021. #11. There is no one "beat" powder for any cartridge. Many powders will work well in most applications. For 45-70 I like 2400 for mid level velocities. This …There is no one "beat" powder for any cartridge. Many powders will work well in most applications. For 45-70 I like 2400 for mid level velocities. This …This load has been around for more then 50 yrs. Use it with a 300gr cast for varmints and kids plinking in any 45-70 that is tight and safe to shoot including the original civil war era trap doors. You have to match the powder for the job. There is no one-fitzall out there. Been there done this for 50+ years. The .45-70 is one of our oldest centerfire rifle cartridges, a black powder number that successfully made the transition to smokeless powder and has prospered into the 21st Century. The traditional .45-70 factory load is a 405 grain bullet (BC .214, SD .272) at a MV of 1330 fps, and a ME of 1590 ft. lbs. This is a very moderate load that kills ... Well, here is the "deal" with the OAL. Hornady states that the OAL should be 2.590. However, they also state that the brass should be trimmed to a length of 2.040. Well, the SAMI spec calls for the 45-70 brass to be 2.105. That puts the Hornady brass at .065 (sixty five thousands) shorter than the SAMI spec.Yes Bill, W 748 is a good powder for 45-70. For top end loads. I have used it in 50 plus gr loads but the OP mentioned starting at 41 gr. he isn't developing enough pressure for a good burn. I view powder as having a "happy range" of pressures where they work best. He used a powder well below the range where it was happy. Sort of like using …Apr 8, 2012 · 305 posts · Joined 2012. #6 · Apr 8, 2012. I have been shooting 24g's of A2400 , now for about 6 weeks, that was shortly after getting my GBL 45/70! I am casting my own 405g Boolit's, using a Lee 405 standard base mold! Using Wheel weights and dropping in water as soon as cast! Loading as poured and not sizing! The 45-70 Government cartridge was introduced all the way back in 1873 for military use. The designation literally meant a 45 caliber bullet and 70 grains of black powder. The brass case has a large rim and straight but tapered case walls. It quickly became popular with hunters of big game, including buffalo, elk, and bear.Active Member. May 12, 2020. #14. Exactly, 12 grains of Unique works in the 45/70 with all bullets I cast and shoot in my Marlin 1895. (Made by Remington, oh no!) Photo attached shows two of the bullets with 12 grains of Unique, top group of five is the NOE 405 FP, lower Ideal 457122 HP both sized .459 with Ben’s Red.Jul 30, 2020 · Winchester once loaded many versions of the basic .45-70 Government case with different bullet weights, shapes and black powder charges. It also loaded one variant of the .45-70-405 Winchester load expressly for the Marlin 1881 lever-action rifle. That load featured a differently shaped 405-grain bullet and was head-stamped “.45-70 Mar.” 3777 posts · Joined 2012. #4 · Oct 22, 2020. IMR3031 is THE smokeless powder for the 45-70. I use it in my Pedersoli Springfield Trapdoor. I don't believe I use buffers except w/ black powder. Member: Orange Gunsite Family, NRA-Life, the American Legion, and 50-year LEO w/ a 45ACP 1911. All my 1911s are in .45ACP & 10mm.Feb 12, 2015 · Just tried Hodgdon's mid-range load for 45-70 with 405g bullet in original Springfield trapdoor. MV was 1020 (average of 5 shots) compared to 1370 from Pinnacle loads, and bench-rest groupings at 100 yards were modest (15"-18" and to the right) compared to results from Pinnacle (8"-10" groupings and pretty much dead on). …. If you decide to shoot up the surplus powder in your 45-70, I'd start less than 20 grains using the cereal filler and see how things go. Might want to use a magnum rifle primer to ignite the hard to start powder if things work out but have unburnt powder in the bore. NRA Benefactor Member NRA Certified Police Firearms Instructor NRA Certified …The data in CBH #3 with the Dacron wad will still be very close with the use of a Dacron filler. The use of 2400 with cast bullets at all levels in the 45-70 was dropped in the CBH #4 because they also dropped the use of the Dacron wad. Larry Gibson. “Deficient observation is merely a form of ignorance and responsible for the many morbid ...25. It was my assumption that this is the same powder used in the factory LeverRevolution loads for 44 mag and 45/70 since the names and artwork are the same. Hornady LeverRevolution factory ammo does in fact work quite nicely in my 44 mag and 45/70 guns. It appears this is not the same powder, but this is quite confusing on …If you decide to shoot up the surplus powder in your 45-70, I'd start less than 20 grains using the cereal filler and see how things go. Might want to use a magnum rifle primer to ignite the hard to start powder if things work out but have unburnt powder in the bore. NRA Benefactor Member NRA Certified Police Firearms Instructor NRA Certified …Dec 16, 2011 · All you can get in there, with the option of a few grains of some faster rifle powder next to the primer to get the whole thing lit off. H870 by itself in a 45-70 only manages about 900 fps. With 5 grains of 4759 or similar you can get about 1200 fps and a lot less unburnt powder being thrown around. It should give around ~1200/1400 fps in your rifle. I have used it in one of my 45/70's but, not by itself, I used it as a priming charge for 4831, for a better loading density. H110/296 is a excellent reduce charge powder. In BR shooting, it's not position sensitive.Remington has a 45-70 round with a 405 grain jacketed bullet. It's safe, accurate, and for the most part, available where ever you buy every other rifle ammo. Winchester has a similar round. Avoid Buffalo Bore, as their ammo is loaded to a much higher pressure for use in modern rifles. 01-05-2014, 03:38 #6.The 45-70-500 Government had more developmental testing before the US Military adopted it for chambering in the Springfield rifle than any other US Military battle ... use of smokeless powder for greater energy. Military developments included the 45-56-405, carbine loading and 45-70-500, rifle loading, both the conventional round nose ...Modern .45-70 Gov't. ... The 19th century black powder loads packed with 50 to 70 gr. of powder could propel a 405-gr. lead bullet at nominal velocities of 1,040 to 1,280 fps. generating between ...5 Mar 2011 ... Reloading .45-70 cartridges with black powder. Part 3 covers loading powder and seating bullets to make a finished cartridge.The following is the process that I have found to be an effective approach to reloading 45-70 “Black Powder” shells. First let me reiterate that I enjoy the nostalgia of shooting a rifle that is well over a century old. It is kind of like being able to go shooting with my grandfather. I also enjoy the sound, smoke, muzzle blast and recoil followed by a perceptibly delayed …Yes Bill, W 748 is a good powder for 45-70. For top end loads. I have used it in 50 plus gr loads but the OP mentioned starting at 41 gr. he isn't developing enough pressure for a good burn. I view powder as having a "happy range" of pressures where they work best. He used a powder well below the range where it was happy. Sort of like using …29 Mar 2013 ... Comments34 · 45 70 405gr unique powder load · 1874 Shiloh Sharps in 45-70, The Rifle.Aug 2, 2011 · Around 44 gr. of IMR-4198 should get him in the ballpark for that velocity. IMR-4198 and H4198 are very good powders for the 45/70 from mild trapdoor loads to heavy hitting teeth rattling loads for lever actions or even stronger Ruger #1's and converted Mausers. 07-31-2011, 09:02 AM #8. paborn. Nice round 1-1/2" ten shot group. One flyer that he called as a bad shot about 1" from that group (so, technically, a 2 1/2" group). This with a 385gr cast bullet, large pistol primer, and 9gr of Hodgdon TiteGroup powder. No wad or filler. He let me shoot a few rounds at our ranges 200 yard 18" gong.2002. Remarks: max load; 39,400 cup. .45-70 Government (Lever Actions) (Hodgdon Data) reloading data with 56 loads. Using bullets from Sierra HP, Hornady JRN, Speer JFP. Powders include IMR, Hodgdon. This fast-burning rifle powder gives outstanding performance in cartridges like the 222 Remington, 221 Fireball, 45-70, and 450 Marlin. It is also outstanding in cartridges like the 444 Marlin and 7.62 X 39. Varmint shooters with small-bore cartridges love it. IMR recommends always consulting www.IMRReloading.com for the most accurate, up-to-date data. Available in 1-LB and 8-LB containers. No wad either; the powder does not seem to be very position sensitive. Velocities and pressures are close to factory as is recoil - 40 grains of IMR3031 will kick a lot harder for little velocity gain. (If you open some brands of factory .45-70 they appear to be loaded with only 15-20 grains of flake or ball powder.May 11, 2006 · 120. 4064 (IMR) Even IMR 4320 is to slow for optimal loads, particularly with barrels 26" or shorter. For a 300 grain bullet I use the following load which would be equally suited to your H&R: Marlin 1895 45-70 22" barrel. 300 grain Sierra (2.525" COAL), Hornady (2.55" COAL) or Speer (2.53" COAL) Winchester brass, 2.1" trim, if necessary. 18 Sept 2018 ... Comments22 ; Is The 45-70 Gov. Really That Powerful? Ron Spomer Outdoors · 268K views ; Loading Black Powder 45-70. Frontier Western Heritage · 17K&n...An armed man in a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject. A disarmed man is a slave. After trying a lot of different powders in the 45-70, and getting some spectacular results, I can assure you that 4198 is about as good as it gets. I've gotten as good results with Rel7 and 5744. They will all shoot 1moa off a good rest.Winchester 1886 Saddle Ring Carbine Blued/Brown Lever Action Rifle – 45-70 Government – 22in. $1,419.99. (19) Buy in Store Only. Check Stores. Compare.When used as directed, BC powders are not bad for you. However, like any medication, misuse can have harmful side effects. BC powders are made up of aspirin and caffeine, neither o...21 May 2016 ... The .45/70 doesn't have an issue with penetration. Its reputation was built on a 405-500 grain bullet chugging along a 1300FPS. Once you get ...Oct 19, 2023 · Originally posted by Ske1eter: I'm green at reloading for the 45-70 but 748 doesn't seem like a popular/good powder for lead bullets. In general, preferences seem to be for rl-7 and 3031 from the endless searching that I've done. My plan is for 44gr Max of rl-7 for a 405 gr. lead cast bullet in my Marlin 1895. The.45-70 rifle cartridge, also known as 45-70 Government, was developed at the U.S. Army's Springfield Armory for use in the Springfield Model 1873, which is known to collectors as the "Trapdoor Springfield." The new cartridge was a replacement for the stop-gap.50-70 Government cartridge, which had been adopted in 1866, one year after the end ofBuy your .45-70 ammunition in bulk here at Ammo.com. Live inventory + same day shipping! ... and is one of the very few cartridges that has continued to thrive after being converted from using black powder to smokeless powder. The .45-70 was developed at the historic Springfield Armory in Massachusetts as a short-term replacement for the .50-70Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data. Wt. Remarks: MAX LOAD; Max Pressure (PSI): 27,460; COAL: 2.550 inches. .45-70 Government (Shooters World) reloading data with 12 loads. Using bullets from Winchester JHP, LC RNFP 10 Saeco, LC RNFP 7 Saeco, LC RNFPHB 5 Saeco. Powders include Shooters …6 Jul 2013 ... I try the 500gr bullet black powder load with a wad over the powder to see if results will be different.Smokeless small rifle powder. Designed for small caliber varmint loads, it meters consistently and meets the needs of the most demanding bench rest shooter. Great in .45-70 and .450 Marlin. Small caliber varmint loads. Great for .45-70 and .450 Marlin. Meters consistently. Principal Purpose: Light rifle. Secondary Uses: 45-70 gov't.May 11, 2006 · 120. 4064 (IMR) Even IMR 4320 is to slow for optimal loads, particularly with barrels 26" or shorter. For a 300 grain bullet I use the following load which would be equally suited to your H&R: Marlin 1895 45-70 22" barrel. 300 grain Sierra (2.525" COAL), Hornady (2.55" COAL) or Speer (2.53" COAL) Winchester brass, 2.1" trim, if necessary. .45-70 Government (1886 Winchester and 1895 Marlin) (Speer Data) 27.45-70 Government (1886 Winchester Model 22-inch Barrel) 8.45-70 Government (1895 Marlin) (Barnes Reloading Manual #3) 52.45-70 Government (1895 …25. It was my assumption that this is the same powder used in the factory LeverRevolution loads for 44 mag and 45/70 since the names and artwork are the same. Hornady LeverRevolution factory ammo does in fact work quite nicely in my 44 mag and 45/70 guns. It appears this is not the same powder, but this is quite confusing on …23 Jun 2013 ... Introduction of detailed instructions on how to reload the M1881 black powder load 45-70 ammo with a 500 grain lead bullet.A 405 gr. cast bullet will be easy to keep under 1120 fps, and thus will give your your subsonic load. New to loading, that choice, I feel, will give you the right tools to work with and not cause dangerous levels. One can easily overload a case like the 45-70 with fast burning pistol powder like Unique.The .45-70 is one of our oldest centerfire rifle cartridges, a black powder number that successfully made the transition to smokeless powder and has prospered into the …HoneyBadger™ — Our new line of ammunition that does not have hollow points. HoneyBadger™ doesn’t need hollow points and does not depend on them for performance.3777 posts · Joined 2012. #4 · Oct 22, 2020. IMR3031 is THE smokeless powder for the 45-70. I use it in my Pedersoli Springfield Trapdoor. I don't believe I use buffers except w/ black powder. Member: Orange Gunsite Family, NRA-Life, the American Legion, and 50-year LEO w/ a 45ACP 1911. All my 1911s are in .45ACP & 10mm.In duplicating the cavalry 45/55/405 load for the H&Rs, I've found Tightgroup powder to be the most uniform powder for both ballistic uniformity and accuracy. To duplicate the 45/70/405 infantry load I like slower powders like 4759 and 4198.Feb 11, 2009 · EsoxLucius. Accurate 1680 is very similar to the 4198s and Reloder 7 being on the "fast" side of powders for the 45-70. According burn rate charts, some have Accurate 1680 closer to the 4227s than the 4198s, while others have it closer to the 4198s than the 4227s. There is no reason why it wouldn't produce impressive velocities in the 45-70 ... Just tried Hodgdon's mid-range load for 45-70 with 405g bullet in original Springfield trapdoor. MV was 1020 (average of 5 shots) compared to 1370 from Pinnacle loads, and bench-rest groupings at 100 yards were modest (15"-18" and to the right) compared to results from Pinnacle (8"-10" groupings and pretty much dead on). ….Yes Bill, W 748 is a good powder for 45-70. For top end loads. I have used it in 50 plus gr loads but the OP mentioned starting at 41 gr. he isn't developing enough pressure for a good burn. I view powder as having a "happy range" of pressures where they work best. He used a powder well below the range where it was happy. Sort of like using …I place all reloaded cartridges into their associated containers after I finish seating bullets into all of the primed shells that I have filled with powder. I mark each container with the type of cartridge, “.45-70” in this case. I also mark the primer and powder identification plus powder charge in grains.3901 posts · Joined 2020. #10 · Aug 26, 2021. IMR 3031 is said to be the most efficient powder for modern 45-70 loads. It is also about the easiest you can find at present. I bought it a both Bass Pro and Brownells this last year, I use it for many calibers. I use it for 300, 350 and 405 jacketed bullet loads.Still below the max load according to Nosler. For 405gr Lead heads I use 40gr max of H4198. My rifle is a Browning made Winchester 1886, capable of handling the same loads as the Marlin 1895. I've found a table quoting that Viht N130 is an equivalent to 4198 so might look into that a bit further.No wad either; the powder does not seem to be very position sensitive. Velocities and pressures are close to factory as is recoil - 40 grains of IMR3031 will kick a lot harder for little velocity gain. (If you open some brands of factory .45-70 they appear to be loaded with only 15-20 grains of flake or ball powder.As near as I can determine, H/IMR 4198 are considered the most efficient powders to use in high-end lever action handloads for 45-70 and 350-405-grain bullets. IMR 3031 is slightly slower burning powder than the 4198s. In .45-caliber lever actions I think this means it is better suited for: slightly larger powder capacity per bullet weight ...The following is the process that I have found to be an effective approach to reloading 45-70 “Black Powder” shells. First let me reiterate that I enjoy the nostalgia of shooting a rifle that is well over a century old. It is kind of like being able to go shooting with my grandfather. I also enjoy the sound, smoke, muzzle blast and recoil followed by a perceptibly delayed …24 Feb 2018 ... Video über das Wiederladen von 45-70 Gov. Schwarzpulver-Patronen mit Wano Schwarzpulver, Starline-Hülsen und 330 Grain Bleigeschossen für ...2 Nov 2022 ... Share your videos with friends, family, and the world.Dec 1, 2014 · The 45-70 is a black powder case whose total capacity was filled with black powder by necessity to avoid detonation with black powder from an air space. Smokeless powders are generally more able to handle extra air space but more filling powder charges tend to be more uniform in firing. Introduced to the world just 1 year after the invention of .45 Colt, .45-70 Gov’t reigns supreme in the world of straight-walled cartridges to this day. Its name is derived from the bullet diameter (.45 in), the weight of the black powder used when it was created (70 grains), and the fact that it was designed and used by the U.S. ARMY in 1873.Re: Light loads for the .45-70. by JohndeFresno » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:22 am. Paco Kelly, the founder of this website, has reported that he killed a coyote at 50 yeards with a heart/lung shot using a 450 gr. pure lead bullet propelled by only 2 1/2 gr. of Bullseye in his .45-70. This is a silent load.The .45-70 was first introduced as the .45 Government for the army’s new Model 1873 rifles and carbines. Case length was 2.100 inches for use with a 405-grain roundnose lead-alloy bullet of .457-inch diameter. The initial …I'm looking for the best powder choice for the 45-70 with 400-405 grain bullets. Will be loading in the 35-40000 PSI range. The 2 that appear the …I have used two powders for my 45_70. Reloader 7 for the higher velocity loads and for the sedate paper punching loads I like Unique. 10 to 15grs …. Low bulky density and superior ignition characteristics make 5744The following is the process that I have found to be Regarding 45-70 powders and cast bullets, my favorites are as follows: My "everyday" load for the Marlin 1895 Cowboy is the 300 gr. Saeco (# 015-F7L bullet; +/-310 gr. with my alloy), 15.0 gr. of IMR Trail Boss powder, CCI #200 primer in Remington brass. Velocity = 1,213 fps. Your mileage may vary. My 405 gr. lead or cast bullet load is either ...AA1680 is one powder you don't want to go much below the minimum suggested starting load. crazy.gif. I think that is your problem - 45 grains of H4198 with that ... Remarks: .45-70 Government (Accurate Rifle Data) reloading data w I have used two powders for my 45_70. Reloader 7 for the higher velocity loads and for the sedate paper punching loads I like Unique. 10 to 15grs … 657. I have have an good, low pressure, accurate lo...
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